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#13984948 Mar 14, 2019 at 10:55 AM · Edited 6 days ago
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Ok Nym and I have spent a lot of time talking about this. In the beginning, it was bard fighter dwarven axe swashy. Many deviations of this on the DDO forums ranging from dual dwarven axe to greataxe THF types. Mostly with enough bard for swash n some heals/buffs warchanter spinning ice and the rest in fighter aiming for some kensai or even up to strike with no thought.
When it comes to swashy bard you need to consider CHA or INT to dmg. Nym and I agreed that INT had the edge due to the skill points, the help from harper INT to hit, and the insightful reflexes. So, this is my conclusion from those conversations.
The level progression is set perfectly to end with GSWF at level 18 and also land the improved shield mastery. The trick was not to take WIZ until after level 9, so the BAB could be 6 and actually get the ISWF so the whole chain could fit properly.
INT to DMG from the swashy tree with the dagger/buckler combo, INT to hit from the harper tree, grabbing up to tier 4 on a lot of stuff from vistani tree, mainly to make her super fast on the doublestrike, but the most fun part of this is taking tier 5 on the EK tree, grabbing tensers, the shield HP thingie, and also that EK cleave which is super nice along with all the doublestrike and critical hit buffs in between. Ultimately this thing when it goes epic will be running around with extended displacement and stoneskin, and dodging or shrugging off most everything else with the improved evasion and insightful reflexes.
Self heals will be by scroll, but the EK scroll boost should help a lot. We'll see how it goes!
This is first life friendly - tomes and PLs are just gravy. Recommend those points go into CON if available.

Level 20 Chaotic Good Drow Female
(10 Rogue / 7 Wizard / 3 Bard)
Hit Points: 166
Spell Points: 507

BAB: 12/12/17/22
Fortitude: 7
Reflex: 23
Will: 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 8 8
Dexterity 13 13
Constitution 13 13
Intelligence 20 28
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 11 11

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Single Weapon Fighting

Level 2 (Rogue)

Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery

Level 4 (Bard)

Level 5 (Bard)

Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes

Level 7 (Rogue)

Level 8 (Rogue)

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Single Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell

Level 11 (Rogue)

Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion

Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery

Level 16 (Wizard)

Level 17 (Wizard)

Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell

Level 19 (Wizard)

Level 20 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Knife Expertise (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Knife Juggler (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Quick Reflexes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Undead Hunter (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Rapid Slash (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Bleeding Cuts (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Deadly Blades (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Celerity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker IV (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Single Dagger (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Eldritch Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Spellsword: Acid (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Shield (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Shield (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Shield (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Martial Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Arcane Barrier (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Arcane Barrier (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Arcane Barrier (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Shield Striking (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Shield Striking (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Shield Striking (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Tenser's Transformation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Eldritch Shield (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Still Spell (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Doublestrike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Doublestrike (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Doublestrike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Elegant Footwork (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Skirmisher (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Two Steps Ahead (Rank 1)
#13985535 Mar 15, 2019 at 08:29 AM
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ps I'm closing in on level 9 now, about to take the improved SWF.
I'd like this to be interactive, so please comment and let me know what you think - especially about the 7WIZ and tier5 EK. Am I trying too hard to grab survivability - at the cost of some good Tier 5 vistani stuff? What about points into the assassin tree instead? Would the assassinate and dmg boost outweigh the EK survival stuff?
#13987390 Mar 17, 2019 at 03:37 PM
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Nice, Hope it's playing well for you!

(I've said it before, but I've never been much of one to go super heavy on the theory crafting and making 'builds', so I don't feel comfortable delving deeply into it. Random suggestions about gear and some enhancements/feats in game based on specific goals sure, but the last time I did any real theory crafting was in pen-and-paper with the pathfinder rules set, and even then I had my goals and didn't go too deep imo). Plus, my experience with anything close to this is my VKF trapper, but she's uber-focused on trapping then mobility with stabbing being the secondary (tertiary?) focus... and is a completely different class split too and thus I have no real experience with the eldritch knight tree either).
#13991728 Mar 20, 2019 at 11:54 AM
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Just a little update - the char just hit 16. Landing the ROG improved evasion has been super nice in combination with the uncanny dodge boost when in a pinch. The more I looked at the initial idea the more I wanted to invest more heavily in vistani, which is what I did - I took tier 5 vistani and grabbed the blessed blades and mist stalker V which has a much lower cooldown than the uncanny dodge. Almost to the point where you can pop it at every skirmish along the way. With the imp evasion and mist stalker V up, she's not getting hit much, and when she does the damage is minimal or shrugged off. Currently toggling between blessed blades and rapid slash in a fight, but also using the EK cleave when surrounded and tossing in the swashy blow by blow as well.
Weapon wise I'm using the barovian dagger, slice, dice, and some adaman DR breaker that I got from shadow crypt I think. Was using the crabshell buckler, but pulled a nicer buckler from amrath archons trial and have been going with that so I could pass the crabshell down to the tank alt.
Next goal is to get up to tier 4 or so in EK and looking forward to taking GSWF at 18.
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